Everything2 is brought to you by Everything2 Media, LLC. It's a very explicit, kind of gruesome book, and I wonder if you've thought about why it's so graphic. Our view that you die and your soul goes to heaven or hell is not found anywhere in the Old Testament, and it's not what Jesus preached. Voltaire is saying, "Let us accept that God exists. Manage Settings If you actually look at what the Psalms say about Sheol, they always equate it to the grave or to the pit. I'm going to be tortured for 30 trillion years for those 30 years? Abuses with abuses, scandal with scandal. Are you seeing your book in a way that you didn't quite when you were actually writing it? if I had (some monetary unit) for every time (something happened), If I knew you were coming, I'd have baked a cake, if Eskimos have N words for snow, X have Y words for Z, if frogs had wheels they wouldn't bump their butts, if frogs had wheels they wouldnt bump their butts, If frogs had wheels, they wouldn't bump their butts, if frogs had wheels, they wouldnt bump their butts, if frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their butts, if frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their butts when they hop, if frogs had wings they wouldnt bump their butts, if frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their butts, if frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their butts when they hop, if frogs had wings, they wouldnt bump their butts, if God did not exist it would be necessary to invent Him. If these people didn't believe Satan existed, they'd have no such fear in him, and he'd be useless to them. lived like a monster, and ended by killing some old man and robbing him. So there again is confirmation that serpent in the beginning with Satan. Demon inhabitation is real. If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him This statement by Voltaire was so famous that Flaubert included it in his Dictionnaire des ides reues, and it is still frequently quoted today. (Newspapers_com), YouTube video, Title: The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didnt exist, Uploaded on April 30, 2009, Uploaded by: iPhilR, (Quotation starts at 0 minute 4 seconds of 3 minutes 2 seconds) (Video excerpt from the 1995 movie The Usual Suspects Phrase spoken by Kevin Spacey as Verbal) (Accessed on youtube.com on March 19, 2018). And in thinking this, as it turns out, the Christians are simply picking up on views that had been around among the Greeks since way back in the time of Plato. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10). The larger context of the debate in which he was engaged at the time indicates that he did not intend this statem. If it's on the Internet it must be true. EHRMAN: Yes. My dear elderly mother is a very good Christian, and she believes that she will die and she will go to heaven and she will see her husband. God will destroy the forces of evil. This information should not be considered complete, up to date, and is not intended to be used in place of a visit, consultation, or advice of a legal, medical, or any other professional. But they - these apocalyptic thinkers came to think that God was soon going to destroy these forces of evil and get rid of them altogether, and the world would again return to a utopia. "I think the devil doesn't exist, but man has created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness." Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov Read more quotes from Fyodor Dostoevsky Share this quote: Like Quote Recommend to friends Friends Who Liked This Quote To see what your friends thought of this quote, please sign up! Ehrman is a distinguished professor of religious studies at The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill and is one of America's most widely read scholars of early Christianity and the New Testament. Press J to jump to the feed. And then if you want even more background on Satan's fall or some people . Well, if we're being rewarded, they're going to be punished. What would Satanists do without Satan to worship? But let me ask, what if the devil didn't exist? However, it coul. If you're just joining us, my guest is Bart Ehrman. We aren't using our cars. Anonymous? And so you get these demonic forces in the world that are creating misery for everyone. And it's really the only way to stop this thing from growing. . Artistic, wasn't it? But I personally think, probably, this life is all there is. For Paul, Jesus was going to come back from heaven and bring in God's kingdom here on Earth, and people would be raised from the dead for glorious eternity. Or it's because of, you know, one social ill or another that God is punishing. Copyright 2006 -2012 by R. R. Stark -- All Rights Reserved. When he became convinced that Jesus was raised from the dead, he thought that the resurrection had started. Our engineer today is Adam Staniszewski. And in Europe, finally, happy toleration Ivan, not Dostoyevsky. It's about how people have misused the Book of Revelation to talk about how the end is coming and how it always seems like it's going to be coming in our own time. And so he talked about living in the last days because he assumed that everybody else now was going to be raised to follow suit. So this must be what Jesus taught. And so I think - I cannot believe that you can actually say that God is just and merciful and loving - even if he believes in judgment, he is not going to torture you for 30 trillion years and then keep going. And so Sheol is sometimes portrayed like that. If God knew that Adam and Eve would sin, why did He create them? EHRMAN: I do in some ways. We'll talk more after a break. It'd be like the Garden of Eden once more. (1201 Views), I'm Using This Opportunity To Tell You That I Don't Exist. Either we live on and we see those we knew before and those we didn't know before, and we spend all of our time being with them, which for him was absolute paradise because Socrates liked nothing better than conversing with people, and so now he could converse with Homer and with all the greats of the Greek past. 7. 56 views, 2 likes, 3 loves, 4 comments, 0 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from New&Living Way Gospel Temple: Sunday service In other words, Satan wanted to be God and he wanted all of the angels to worship and serve him. They believe this ominous caricature is a myth created by dogmatists who have misunderstood ancient allegorical religious literature or sacred scriptures or orally passed down stories. And so I don't try to talk people out of their view of heaven, but I think, actually, it's better off, you know, not living for what's going to happen after you die; it's better off living for what you can do now. (Gallica of Bibliothque Nationale de France at gallica.bnf.fr), 1918 November, The English Review, Edited by Austin Harrison, Volume 27, The Generous Gambler by Charles Baudelaire, Translated from French by Arthur Symons, Start Page 354, Quote Page 355, Published at 19 Garrick Street, London. EHRMAN: Well, the same advice everybody's getting who's listening to the right news sources, which is that you need to self-isolate. I have told the disputants, hounding one another: It is the cygnes that can casser a mans cuisse. But the architect exists, and anyone who denies it We will see poverty clothed and nourished And then we'll talk about the history of ideas of heaven and hell. I mean, I just - no (laughter). Nobody frets about it or gets upset by having it. Accuracy and availability may vary. Nobody ever believed he was real. Interesting precursors occurred even earlier; for example, the 1836 book Quakerism Examined by John Wilkinson contained the following. Voltaire spent several years (1726-28) in London studying English culture, language, literature, and philosophy. (Google Books Full View), Baudelaire, that old flower of evil, was right: The Devils cleverest wile is to make men believe that he does not exist., In 1984 a reporter with The Los Angeles Times spoke to Jeffrey Russell, a professor of medieval history at UC Santa Barbara, who referenced the saying:[7]1984 October 31, The Los Angeles Times, Section 5: View, Article: Is Satan Real? GROSS: Do you feel that believing in hell scarred you? Voltaire's Notes Other views exist, and especially since Voltaire DID believe in God, and wrote about religious tolerance, my view is quite likely not to be what Voltaire intended. In 1864 Le Figaro published the tale Le Joueur Gnreux (The Generous Gambler) by Charles Baudelaire. A non smoking person wouldn't exist without a person that is smoking, has nothing to do whether . EHRMAN: Just to go out in my yard. Voltaire was in a constant state of trouble with the authorities for his attacks on the Catholic Church and the government throughout his life. This Richard was, someones illegitimate child; at the age of six he was, parents to some Swiss mountain shepherds, who brought him up to work for, them. Jesus himself held to the apocalyptic view that I laid out. They're not? So now we're faced with a pandemic. For having cut short the course of my life. Predictions that didn't happen. And stop biting one another for absurd chimeras." Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? It'll be exponential. It's not that I wish I believed it; I wish that it were true. Paul, in his earliest letters, affirms that view of the imminent resurrection. Of these Caesars tainted by their usurped grandeur; Like, I'm sure you don't want to talk them out of their beliefs. The old testament has a fairly uniform and rather stark explanation for why there are plagues or epidemics or pandemics. One of the mysteries of the Christian life is why God didn't destroy Satan immediately after Satan sinned. How are you and your family? You get both of those explanations. He converted several years after Jesus' death. And the martyr Socrates, and the great Cicero: As a writer, Voltaire wrote numerous memorable aphorisms. We'll be right back and talk more about the history of heaven and hell. They'll be physical. Does BTS Live Together? Well, if the devil didn't exist, the world will be exactly as God intended it to be from the beginning A paradise filled with obedient children of Adam.. You've also studied the Gnostic Gospels, which were the recently discovered gospels that never became part of the canon. Satan fell because of his pride and disobedience to the Lord. Our associate producer of digital media is Molly Seavy-Nesper. If the devil amounts to no more than religious fear tactics created by dangerous dogmatists, manipulating believers into salvation, than I'd say this shallow creature has no legs to stand on, being just a two-dimensional puppet of religious zealots to sell their wares. What was his vision of what happens after death? GROSS: So does that mean you're not leaving the house at all? Eventually, he left the faith altogether. And that's how you start getting the development of the idea of hell, that it's a place where souls go to be punished in - as the opposite of the people who go to heaven to be rewarded. It has to do with the apocalypse, the revelation of God. To commemorate the occasion, Aaron White of Feel. He's the author of the new book "Heaven And Hell: A History Of The Afterlife." His practical deism, which stresses humanistic virtues and rejects dogma and the sanctity of the inner life, responded to the churchs dominant role in French society. GROSS: When you were 15 and became a fundamentalist evangelical Christian, what would you have believed about the pandemic? Christopher McQuarrie? And the most famous of the Gnostic Gospels is Thomas. And they had been raised with the idea that your soul lives on after death, and now they had a Christian model to put it on. The line about the Devil was accentuated when it was repeated near the end of the film. Foolish children of God, cherish yourselves in your brothers, And so in terms of what I know, I'm an agnostic. Voltaires writings express his intellectual play with words. What it says is that Samuel came up, but it doesn't say where he was, and it doesn't say if he was living at the time. They'll be in bodies. Your beliefs about what happens after death or if anything happens might shape how you're dealing with your fears and anxieties. 3 968 likes So, this stupid theory is full of too many holes - that people gullibly fall into. Truth is we all have free choice; we can freely choose to do good or to do bad. Everybody loves a deep, dreamless sleep. These works, often composed as polemics or pamphlets, puncture received orthodoxy and show a solid ironic style without overreaching. 1 This book of the Three Imposters is a very dangerous work, full of coarse atheism, without wit and devoid of philosophy. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. And I still think that Socrates is the one who probably put it best. Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / What If, The Devil Don't Exist, Will You Still Be A Christian? Would they have no one to blame for their erroneous ways? If God destroyed evil (Satan), we wouldn't be evil right now. This is FRESH AIR. The original text contained the mistaken phrase your hear instead of you hear:[4]1918 November, The English Review, Edited by Austin Harrison, Volume 27, The Generous Gambler by Charles Baudelaire, Translated from French by Arthur Symons, Start Page 354, Quote Page 355, Published Continue reading, He complained in no way of the evil reputation under which he lived, indeed, all over the world, and he assured me that he himself was of all living beings the most interested in the destruction of Superstition, and he avowed to me that he had been afraid, relatively as to his proper power, once only, and that was on the day when he had heard a preacher, more subtle than the rest of the human herd, cry in his pulpit: My dear brethren, do not ever forget, when your hear the progress of lights praised, that the loveliest trick of the Devil is to persuade you that they dont exist!, Here is a 1919 translation by Joseph T. Shipley:[5]1919, Baudelaire: His Prose and Poetry by Charles Baudelaire, Edited by T. R. Smith, Series: The Modern Library of the Worlds Best Books, Story: The Generous Player, Translated by Joseph T. Continue reading, He did not in any way bemoan the bad reputation which he enjoys in all parts of the world, assured me that he himself was the person most interested in the destruction of superstition, and confessed that he had never feared for his own power save once, on the day when he had heard a preacher, more subtle than his colleagues, cry from the pulpit: My dear brethren, never forget, when you hear the progress of wisdom vaunted, that the cleverest ruse of the Devil is to persuade you he does not exist!, In 1948 LIFE magazine published a piece titled The Devil by Whittaker Chambers which included an instance of the saying:[6] 1948 February 2, LIFE, The Devil by Whittaker Chambers, Start Page 77, Quote Page 81, Time Inc., Chicago, Illinois. Is there really a God who's going to allow that, let alone cause it? I mean, you know, a lot of people aren't joking. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. I'm open to it, and I hope there is something after death, and if it is, it'll be good. So how does that shift happen? Of these proud charlatans promoted to high honors, GROSS: So this was all dependent on, like, the Messiah coming on the end of days, which some Jewish prophets predicted would be soon. Who is Makima in Chainsaw Man Makima is one of the main characters in the first arc of Chainsaw Man. [pg 262] I think if the devil doesn't exist, but man has created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness. Just as he did God, then? observed Alyosha. This is FRESH AIR. They condemned the Pope and wanted to imitate him. In this poem, Voltaire develops the idea that the existence of God (or the belief therein) helps establish social order. Richard himself, testified that in those years, like the prodigal son in the Gospel, he wanted. The precise citation is given further below. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. The things that are happening now are absolutely dreadful as, of course, they were in 1916 to - 1914 to 1918 and as they have been at other times in history. Existence is entirely bodily. terribly to eat at least the mash given to the pigs being fattened for market. But if Jesus has addressed the matter of judgement on the cross, and he has, then the believer's fear is relieved ( Col. 2:13-15 ). EHRMAN: Well, thank you for having me. EHRMAN: That is fair to say (laughter). They're his words, but it isn't implied that this is his belief, "the finest trick of the Devil is to persuade you that he doesn't exist" - Charles Baudelaire, The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoyevsky. "I think that if the devil does not exist, and man has therefore created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness." "As well as God, then." "You're a remarkably good 'implorator of unholy suits,' as Polonius says in Hamlet,"[134] Ivan laughed. He examines the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament, as well as writings from the Greek and Roman era. , Here is the same excerpt from a translation by Arthur Symons published in 1918 in The English Review. Quote Investigator: Charles Baudelaire did write a story that appeared in the Paris newspaper Le Figaro in 1864 that included a comparable statement. The Bible's answer The Bible shows that God did not create the Devil. Such, at least, is the fruit of a useful creed. The angels were created as servants of God, and they were supposed to serve God in obedience. Fyodor Dostoyevsky. Why Are Prefab Sports Buildings Getting Popular? GROSS: One of the theses of your book about the history of heaven and how is that views of heaven and hell don't go back to the earliest stages of Christianity, and they're not in the Old Testament or in Jesus' teachings. (SOUNDBITE OF STEFANO BOLLANI'S "ALOBAR E KUDRA"). To display the idea of good and evil side by side Larson uses extreme syntax. And they will live here on Earth, and this is where the paradise will be. And thanks for having me back. People aren't talking about nuclear weapons anymore, but they probably should be because that's another way this whole thing might end. Remarkable Last Words (or Near-Last Words) Picture Quotes. Fortunately for them, the devil does not seem to be. I see from afar that era coming, those happy days, Evil which you know very very well. And he started thinking that, surely, he's going to be in Christ's presence during that time. But more than that, these people needed to blame a particular entity for causing evil in the world and in their lives. All content on this website, including dictionary, thesaurus, literature, geography, and other reference data is for informational purposes only. You simply - it is going to be a disaster for some way - somewhere, on some level, for the economy, but it'll be a worse disaster if we are out in public because we could be spreading the virus. EHRMAN: Well, I think those views - I mean, I respect believers. I mean, when you die, you stop breathing. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. Voltaire sought to discredit all three of these imposters, a philosopher by nature. Of these wretches in sandals, the excrement of humanity, It has terrified people. And so this is what the later Paul has to say, and this is the beginning of the Christian idea of heaven and hell, that you can exist - even though your physical remains are dead, you can exist in the presence of God in heaven. earning money as a day laborer in Geneva, spent his earnings on drink. And so I don't - it's not that I think that I believe only rational things and everybody else is irrational. Bart Ehrman, welcome back to FRESH AIR. Speaker 1. Real life is in the soul. Isn't this a kind of exciting yet twisted paradise in its own right? I have to deal with this in my book, where I try to show that, in fact, the Book of Revelation does not describe eternal torment for sinners in the lake of fire. The book is all about the terrible destruction that is going to take place on Earth when God destroys everything that is opposed to him, before bringing in a good kingdom. For Gnostics, the idea of being raised in your body was repulsive. The body is not your friend, and God did not create the body. When God creates Adam, he creates him out of earth, and then he breathes life into him. 9:27-28) and the fear of it. And the purged and purified tamed ego is attuning itself with God. :25 JLP: I never correct myself 1:48:35 Ask and receive? And that's exactly what I think. They weren't Jews. (SOUNDBITE OF PETROS KLAMPANIS' "EASY COME EASY GO"). But if we do, it'll be something pleasant like that. I always distinguished between religion I think the devil doesn't exist, but man has created him, he has created him in his own image and likeness. Alas! Verbal Kint? It would be his downfall. Similarly, the word illisible is a useful concept to grasp. He wasn't one of the disciples. At age 15, he became a born-again fundamentalist evangelical Christian. Re: What If, The Devil Don't Exist, Will You Still Be A Christian? / Would You Prefer A World Where Religion Don't Exist At All? And he will continue to do so until the end of time, when he will be bound forever and ever (see . He, at one time, was one of only two cherubs who covered the throne of the universe (Ezekiel 28:14). Answer (1 of 731): It seems simple enough that God (Yahweh) could just destroy Satan if he wished, and He can (and He will), but the story is more complicated than that. Would they feel an empty spot in their hearts, or what? The main character meets and converses with a manifestation of the Devil. I then asked him how his spiritual life is. If God didnt exist, it would be necessary to invent him. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. He will no longer bring along two witnesses 2 It got put in a grave, or it got put in a pit, and that's what they called Sheol, is the place that your remains are. There is hope in moments of complete despair. Course Hero is not sponsored or endorsed by any college or university. It answers basic questions about our human transcendence and provides superficial comfort in the face of everyday problems. You asked me what I was driving at: you see, Im an amateur and, collector of certain little facts; I copy them down from newspapers and, stories, from wherever, and save themwould you believe it?certain, kinds of little anecdotes. God created Lucifer. I have a different set of beliefs. The unscrupulous mayor was such a convenient scapegoat for the city's problems that if she had not existed, it would have been necessary to invent her. If the devil or Satan did not exist I would still be a Christian good is good and evil is still evil. In this article, well discuss Voltaires essay and why he believes the concept of a creator is so vital to society. With the treasures of the Loretto, amassed for Mary; "if everything went perfectly- if his health did not degrade any further, if the weather held, if Burnham completed the other buildings on time, if strikes did not destroy the fair, if the many committees and directors" (118) uses parallel sentence . So this is a really important shift for understanding both the history of later Judaism and the history of later Christianity and the historical Jesus. More insights from your Bible study - Get Started with Logos Bible Software for Free! And that was the view that Jesus then picked up. And in fact, it's not right. All rights reserved. It looks like what - before he was raised up, it looks like he was simply dead, and he was brought back to life temporarily, and he didn't appreciate that (laughter), and so he was upset. EHRMAN: Well, so since these people believed that the soul was immortal, that you can kill the body but you can't kill the soul, they thought, well, OK, so our soul will go to heaven to be with God, but then they realized, well, what about the people who are not on the side of God? Would we have heaven on earth, and would hell simply not exist anymore? Just because a character says it doesn't mean there author thinks it's true. Demon possession is the stuff of movies. EHRMAN: Yeah. But I take the Easter story as a metaphor that, even in the darkest hours when there looks to be no hope and it looks like it's simply the end of all things, there actually is a glimmer of hope and that something good can come out of something very bad. Those that think "the devil made me do it" are looking for a scapegoat, a way to get off the hook for their own screw-ups. Our view is that we - you've got two things going on in the human parts. I think that if the devil does not exist, and man has therefore created, him, he has created him in his own image and likeness., Youre a remarkably good implorator of unholy suits, as Polonius, Ivan laughed. (2) (3) (4). I probably would have subscribed - I would have subscribed to either the view that God was upset and we needed to repent so that he would relent, or that the devil - it was the devil doing it, and we needed to pray to God for mercy and for him to intervene on our behalf. He doesn't think the soul is going to live on in heaven. The people who thought that maintained that this Garden of Eden would come not only to people who happened to be alive when it arrived; it was going to come to everybody. GROSS: Bart Ehrman is the author of the new book "Heaven And Hell: A History Of The Afterlife.". With the descendants of the Pompignan brothers; "Cease, impertinent ones, cease, unfortunate ones; Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. And you have that group. The Turk, without asking whether the imam will pardon him, It would be his downfall. As such, it could be implied that Pochita is God, and as his vessel, the fiends have been protecting Denji to protect the Chainsaw Devil. One of the artifices of Satan is, to induce men to believe that he does not exist: another, perhaps equally fatal, is to make them fancy that he is obliged to stand quietly by, and not to meddle with them, if they get into true silence. Soaking there detestable hands in our blood; Many people perceive the essential religious opposites as a good supreme being and a bad inferior being, who have been ducking it out for eons. I'm wondering if you're hearing that kind of thing, too. 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