Like you I would have liked to know more of the Lord Gil Sam Bong affair. Who wouldn't, if they were up against Hae Mo-su and his badass grandson?! Thats not all though as we soon find out. And all conflict and tension that should exist because of a Clown being a fake King on a throne and surrounded by people that want to kill him, goes away. I agree regarding Moo Youngs death. To all the above comments: If you have time, do go to MLSHR recaps and threads, even if you don't watch it. My thoughts are the queen died of a broken heart when she learned the king was dead. It reduced the second most important character to a plot device and resulted in him being poorly characterised. Not fond of separation endings. In this video we take a deep dive and explain Season 5 of Netflix/Peter Morgan's "The Crown" reviewing its connection to the real royal family, history, and . It turns out to be a trap though that he walks right into. The same night during a family game, one of the daughters finds the entrance to an eerie cellar - which Roger inspects immediately but finds nothing. The old grey mare ain't what she used to be. And I'm not alone, for Beans of Wisdom threads can prove you that. All seems well and as Officer Jang vows to stand by Ha Suns side no matter what, assassins appear to avenge Queen Dowager resulting in both Officer Jang and Ha Sun suffering a terrible fate. This went on for 3 or 4 times, the guard took advantage of it and oneday ordered to kill the disrespectful guard who is laughing at him (but actually the real king dressed in guard clothing ). I doubt the ministers were this stupid not to reveal something that they know to be true. I truly enjoyed the drama's cinematography, particularly the outdoor settings. The Crown Season 5 ending explained The episode begins with the Royal Family agreeing to the decommissioning of the royal yacht, Brittania. From shock and tension through to sadness and bittersweet goodbyes, this 75 minute episode encapsulated everything I've loved about this show since I begun covering it 2 months ago. But then they killed Yi Heon off, and Ha Sun was just too inconsequential for me. Shes decided to leave the gibang, and she tells Ho-geol that she intends to travel and just enjoy life for a while. They have to go back and redo it!!! So-woon had sobbed that if Ha Suns body wasnt there, he must be alive somewhere. Because a writer can write a 'bad' end, but if properly done no one can challenge it or be confused. The writing, on the other hand, definitely the weakest link. Because the show wouldve been more interesting, and wouldve made more sense if he had been treated as his necessary pre-existing character, and therefore storytelling cornerstone, (and Jingoos acting) deserved and required. Thank you so much for taking the time to make these recaps. Gap-soo is crediting this wise king for the current peace in the nation when So-woon arrives, and when the king in his red robes and mask dances, she smiles wistfully. The doppelganger part. Like everyone else I feel the end was rushed and not thought out. And all conflict and tension that should exist because of a Clown being a fake King on a throne and surrounded by people that want to kill him, goes away. The survival of the great majority allows everything? I'm going to miss this drama. Shin- Shin and the Queen Dowager eventually find out, or well, guess that the Clown is not the real King. . I said this in episode 8, and I will say it again. But for the ending, thats a 4/10 for me. The whole idea was for the clown to step in temporarily because they are bound by the custom and rules of that time period. To show how good and righteous the Clown was? He promises that hell never become an animal who uses his power for personal gain, and that hell do whats right even when hes scared. And how exactly was she able to leave the palace and not return to her family home or hie herself to a nunnery as she had told Daebi that she would do? 1/4 He looked excellent. The one degree of separation to MASQUERADE. Moo Young should have survived. Minister Shin tries to bargain, offering Ha Sun the queen dowagers head if he lets him go. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, The palace is thrown into turmoil and at the center of this chaos is our clown King, Ha Sun. I know its a tragedy but why so confusing. Why did he leave the palace without guards? I don't hate it, just think that the ending could have been better executed. Among the antogonistic, closed-mided high officials, there was a belief of a there being a clowned crown. Ho-geol requests some time off, so Ha Sun suggests he take a working vacation to Jeju Island to see how the people like the new law, which is obviously not what Ho-geol had in mind. He only existed to play the King and become the King, at the expense of the King. (function(d, s, id) { Then what was the point ofanything that ever happened in this show? They look at each other lovingly for a long time, then Ha Sun takes So-woons hand, and they walk home together. I wanted to see some little clowns running around. Do not base it on a doppelganger trope, only to IGNORE the implications and potential and importance of that doppelganger trope. Unanswered questions. EPISODE 16 RECAP It's Moon lovers; Scarlet heart, Ryeo. I loved this drama as you said it wasn't perfect in every way but still it was great in many ways. At first, for a while, I thought that when he finally learned the truth about Yi Heon dying, he would be the one to kill Haksan. I'm still trying to catch up with HAECHI. He reminds us that to be a man is to make mistakes, to laugh and fool around. appId : '127538621120543', SO many eye rolling inconsistencies with the time period it took me right out of the whole story but I enjoyed half it at least thanks to the actors. And i also think the doppelganger part is seemingly only the possible way to a mere clown to become a king. The Crown is unlikely to continue past a sixth season, the Netflix show's executive producer has confirmed. He says that even if he stepped down and one of them took the throne, the country would be okay. But he's not finished surprising us yet, as he contemplates a decision that could change the future of the entire nation. Even jin pyong and dowager queen found it out in the last minute and the whole thing happened within 3, 4 months. On his way to meet up with So-woon, Ha Sun senses someone behind him and whirls but whew, its only Moo-young. I dropped this drama once Yi Heon died, but have been keeping up with recaps only to be disappointed with what the writers have been doing every episode. (Cant remember if I read all of your wall before you broke DB, but still *nods*. :) Thats my point. (Maybe even a Lord GSB cameo by Lee Byung-hyun?). I must have been bonkers. The only reason I watched the drama version was because of the movie. However instead of this being a huge and important plot point, and an opportunity for properly developed conflict and climax, this is practically swept under the rug. So, I'm genuinely happy you got CROWNED CLOWN as your 1st Sageuk. What happens upon the family's arrival? Lucky you, for having a fairly good Sageuk as your 1st one. Yes it depends on the perspective. 2. Enjoy it all you want. An emotional farewell with Eunuch Jo (now Royal Secretary Jo) ensues and Ha Sun leaves the palace for good, following after So Woon who left the palace just before he did. In general I feel that The Crowned Clown was successful in effectively telling its shocking story, and that it did so in a gorgeous, impactful way. Please enter your username or email address. But i liked the way things happened in this drama as well. Why didnt the Queen let his sister know who she was, Also I was also confused at how Shin got back in the palace back in his uniform for the assembly meeting when he broke out of jail And was sentenced to death, Because I loved the drama so much and was on the edge of my seat I was expecting a Scarlet Heart type ending or Queen for Seven Days even but do t get this one at all but would still give it 9/10. Yeahthere should be a flash back. At the very least, he would have to be conflicted about it, because he was only obeying Haksans orders because they came from the king or were in the kings best interests. But then theres no indication he ever did learn the truth, and he kept serving Ha Seon as king, and the show then tried to pass off him dying to save Ha Seon (after Ha Seon has already abdicated the throne) as being the same thing as dying in the line of duty as a royal guard. The last 15mins is just drama just for the sake of drama. Untuk menghindari pembunuhan, seorang badut bernama Ha Sun yang juga diperankan oleh Yeo Jin-Goo dibawa ke istana untuk menggantikan Raja Lee Hun. I personaly don't like doppelganger stories because they often are not very good or end not very well like Big, Are You Human Too, The Honor, Jeckyl, Hyde and Me (not a doppelganger but same principe). Lord Mountbatten (Charles Dance), a British Royal Navy . Woon-shim is allowed to say goodbye, and she sobs that she thought they would finally be together. So after the preliminary introductions, they used Yi Heon as a plot device, to get the Clown into the Kings position and then they abandoned the King. It was a suitably heroic end for a loyal bodyguard. She walks out of the village and into a field to think, carrying one of her wishing hazelnuts with her. Queen Dowager walks into a trap of her own and we understand the extent of Ha Suns game-playing as he truly understands how to navigate the vipers pit. Connect with Facebook Like, we see the Queen leaving her Lady behind to go for a walk. Minister Shin says hes already rewarded them to offset the drop in morale, and he asks if she still thinks they need a valid cause for rebellion. Under entirely different circumstances, namely had I liked this show for more than just the first 8 episodes, this final write up would mostly consist of how utterly ridiculous and pointless that fake out death and time jump was; it is stupid for even the flawed story they ended up telling. The ending, although not a disaster, definitely needs to be reworked. And your flimsy attempts at trying to justify this by saying that Ha Seon was better than Yi Heon and would never succumb to what Yi Heon did, mean nothing if you refuse to develop Yi Heon as a character! He deserves it . But i am happy to see in other forums and under youtube comments majority liked it. (function(d, s, id) { It's simply epic! After all if the really great episodes the ending was puzzling. I neglected to state that Jin-goo's performances were great, and that Kim Sang-kyung is a new favorite. SINOPSIS The Crowned Clown : Joseon dalam keadaan kacau karena pemberontakan dan perebutan kekuasaan di sekitar Raja Lee Hun yang diperankan oleh Yeo Jin-Goo. Anyway since i have heard of this king and his door keeper story since childhood the concept wasn't that new to me. The sweeping under the rug of the regicide, adultery, and treasonous impersonation issues was problematic for me. I'm gonna stick to my version, the ending of this series was right after he installed the Tax Law. I totally appreciated your comments. I'll definitely read it. In the dark of night, Minister Shin leads the rebel soldiers to the palace gates and orders them to kill the tyrant king. Some peasants could have been shown taking them in. I am mad they reduced the King, Yi Heon, to nothing, when he was in my opinion the most interesting, and the most important character. We got to see one measly flashback of Yi Heon and the Queen early in their marriage before he started going off the deep end. I'm glad I tuned in. 3. And had so much fun. He was the best!! He manages to touch the pot of water, but he only tips it over as he dies. HAECHI is my only live watch right now. Keith Bernstein/Netflix. It turns out to be a trap though that he walks right into. The acting was superb, the scenery was beautiful and the story was different from its source material. Because whoever Yi Heon was, according to the makers of this show, no longer matters. The queen dowager refuses to be led away, and walks out under her own power. Lord Giseong agrees, saying that a kings job is to approve court discussions and take responsibility for the consequences, not wield power as he pleases, and Ha Sun regards him thoughtfully. They tell the story of a king who was as handsome as he was wise, and whose greatest talent was looking out for his people. if (d.getElementById(id)) return; I was not expecting his remaining foes, Daebi and Lord Shin, to lose their mojo or get a group rate on lobotomies. Thank you and I very much understand your pain, rage, disappointment, every other similar emotion you may be feeling. The entire thing? His dignified presence was a centering, moderating influence for both monarchs, and elevated every scene in which he appeared. Not because hes not royal, but because hes right that its not something that should belong to any one person, but should be used for the good of the people. Lord Giseong is crowned king, and Ha Sun dresses in common clothing as he packs to leave the palace. It was pretty good Korean Soap Opera but so much tragedy and I did want Haskan to have survived for his happy ending but not to be. Yeo Jin-goo. When I thought it couldnt get worse, it did. 4 Recommended by Shawarma General Kim advises Ha Sun to order the rebels to surrender, but Ha Sun says theres something he must do first. That is what they wanted to tell. I recently read a forward (by Don Baker) to the Korean historical novel "Encounter" (1986) by Hahn Moo-Sook where he makes the point that scholars writing history are constrained to probability whereas novelists are constrained to possibility. Prince Jin-pyung is in bad shape from his gut wound, but he tries to act like its nothing when the queen dowager visits him. Ha Sun watches, horrified, as Minister Lee grabs a sword from a guard and runs Prince Jin-pyung through, taking several sword wounds in the back himself. While there were memorable scenes and dialogue, I feel like the overall message the show was trying to convey got muddled along the way. All seems well and as Officer Jang vows to stand by Ha Suns side no matter what, assassins appear to avenge Queen Dowager resulting in both Officer Jang and Ha Sun suffering a terrible fate. Rather than be daring, some parts felt more sensational than meaningful. It made it interesting. On the other hand, last week I finished reading the existing 106 chapters of the translation of NIRVANA IN FIRE, and am looking forward to commencing that watch when I'm current with HAECHI. Ha Sun kept his nose to the grindstone, and lined up a successor. The Crowned Clown [1] ( Korean : ) is a 2019 South Korean television series starring Yeo Jin-goo, Kim Sang-kyung, and Lee Se-young. Cingu, I promise to read your essay but right now I gotta get away from the Cray Cray for a few hours and take a nap or something. Unnecessary death of the officer. Thank you, Peony, I'll give a look if I have time. Got bored reading the comments with such fervor to bring the drama down. I was sure there would be a flashbacks putting thing in context. It's a pity at that time I wasn't on DB, it sounds a so fun experience! Ha Sun says shakily that its not a dream, but that hes walked endlessly in a dream to find her. ;-). What if she had killed herself in that field and seeing him was an illusion? Did it seem to anyone else that there were too many generals possibly coming to help from too many provinces? (Oh, right. His fears. It was a character with a vision for his country. And youre probably going to reply to this with something along the lines of saying even THIS comment is also entirely subjective, thus ironically, proving my point. FB.init({ // Load the SDK asynchronously Thank you. The clown scoffs at everything serious in the world, he is cynical and uses humor to show people that they are too serious. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! I am glad you enjoyed TCC. I was lucky, it was so beautiful about music, acting, costumes, and I appreciated that there was balance between politics and romance. One of these days I intend to watch SHIN DON, which may overlap with JEONG DO JEON. This is a critique of the show alone. I bitched about this on my fan wall, but I'm so pissed I'll repeat myself. Two years pass, then HS shows up talking about how much time had passed when he woke up. I really liked this drama. Predictable and flat waiting period for the queen. Gone. The cliffhangers and the drums-terrific; and He stands before Minister Lees casket one last time, remembering his friend saying that he taught him about the importance of trust and bowing to him as his king. Let me follow your thoughts: Haksan had to die for his sins. I'll have to go back and rewatch it. If you want to tell a story about a Clown being King, do NOT make that ENTIRE premise hinge on a single character and then treat him as a plot device! He believes that nobody should sit on the throne who wants to use it for personal gain, and that he wants to step down because he wants to go back to being one of the people. In the courtyard, she never loses her hostile pride as she drinks the poison and succumbs to its effects. And if there is a pre-existing King for him to be then who that king IS (or was) is very, very important. Recaps done buy the Sageuk Queen HeadsNo.2 (We miss you, @headsno2 ) and filled with the snarkiest comments and jokes, most creative beanie poems, enjoyable analysis and historical trivia, all provided by the most fun, experienced and intellectual beanies EVER to date. I just wish I could have commented more on CROWNED CLOWN, but the mental fatigue was real. ???? DEFINITELY MLDBC!! JUMONG was simply momentous, with KINGDOM OF THE WINDS a worthy successor. I expected that Haksan would perish, and am not surprised he took Prince Jin-pyung with him. We can write what we want but everyone involved in it worked really hard to bring this to life. Hence I've been making an effort to be somewhat detached and not take CROWNED CLOWN too personally. He was awesome!! I seriously think they changed writers in the second half. Sigh. [ENG SUB] Lee Se Young interviews Yeo Jin Goo for Cosmopolitan KoreaPart 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJovfWJncToPart 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=. And the music is perfection. They just look at each other for a long time, then So-woon says that she has this dream all the time, but when she approaches, he usually disappears. It was not possible for me to juggle three sageuks. I stopped watching at episode 10 since I had time-constraints and felt that the pace was a little slow or maybe just that I lacked time. They weren't flawless, but they honored their own internal logic and the characters' developmental arcs. Yay for Jung Il-woo and the Good Guys. There was so much dormant potential with this turn of events, yet this treasonous act wasn't delved into further which is a shame. Im glad that some other comments mentioned it here. Even more than the king/clown swap, I loved the smaller stories about Ha Suns relationships, both with his existing family and the new one he cultivated in the palace. So-woon asks what took him so long, and he says that he dreamed for so long that when he woke, a lot of time had passed. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! At a couple of points in the past two years, I was simultaneously live-watching 9-10 dramas along with older shows and films. After the Secretary stabbed Prince Jin, the Queen thanks Jin for his work thus far and instead vows to put another puppet in her stead on the throne to control. And it was filled with MLSHR comments!) Dal-lae should have reunited with Ha Sun. Ohh man. At night, So-woon holds Ha Suns compass, remembering two years ago when a pair of palace guards delivered the news that they believed Ha Sun was dead. I read the first two parts and loved it and wrote my comment even before I read the recap, because I've been dying to since I skipped my way through the finale (what does it even say about a show finale that I skipped everything but the last bit and still got it right), and then I came back just now and read the other two parts and also loved those. But of course everyone can have its own opinion. And thats really poor writing. That's all we need, they said. Very much understand your pain, rage, disappointment, every other similar emotion you may be feeling childhood concept... 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