Love it! It bewilders me why some people think its ok to disclose really private professional and personal information sometimes. I do not like anchovies on pizza, but I have had them in cocktail bites and apps before, and they are quite flavorful so I do acknowledge their tastiness! Thats why you should google yourself to make sure theres nothing out there youd be uncomfortable with strangers knowing. Too much stuff! Do you punish people for not being fortune tellers? This is true. Id be perfectly happy myself with a gift card to a nearby (by rural standards) pizza place and go pick it up myself. I think most of us have a pretty good idea what is appropriate and what isnt without needing to be explicitly told. A lot of colleges and universities now have policies now that range from the draconian (youre not allowed to accept anything from a vendor, even a .50 cent pen) to more reasonable (if its out on a table, you can take it, but nothing thats a special gift, meals under a certain $ amount). But since I dont have one large office to put everyone in, even my on-campus staff are spread out in several locations. LW 2: salary negotiation classes? Yeah its definitely not rude, unless youre actually questioning their ability to do their job. 2. Ive Googled people. And for the next five years? I justify tracking down their professional contact information because I need that information in my job some of my co-workers will be working with them, and give me only the name and (if Im lucky) the employer and email address. Going down the rabbit hole and spending hours digging to learn really personal things is. I literally would never think of just googling a co-worker. My point is people are going to do it. What in the world could you possibly gain? Hope everything is well. No, in many cases social media is normal parts of someones work personal as well. Privacy Awareness and HIPPA Privacy Training Flashcards | Quizlet It sounded to me that some of the people are elsewhere on campus. People know their information is online; that doesnt mean that its expected that people they know in person will try to find information about them from google instead of by asking/getting to know them personally. I only recently found out that you can send e-gift cards for Starbucks. But I think the lesson from that is not Dont ever google stuff/coworkers. but rather Take what you learn from googling stuff/coworkers with a grain of salt, and definitely dont let them know that you googled them.. And theyve just pulled something like this again. Looking into someones private home is not the same as looking at something they posted publicly online, imo. If Id stopped there and started spreading rumors, I could have done some terrible damage to her reputation. The how much should I search question is why Im grateful to have a common name (and why we didnt give our children unique names). Similarly, if youre starting a business and file for a sole proprietorship, LLC or other type of corporation, you have to post your name and the name of the business in the local newspaper. Thats waaaayyyy too much, perfectly publicly available, knowledge to have gathered. I also think a Starbucks gift card is a good idea and one that wont break the bank. A lot of my high school accomplishments were featured in the local paper which now has all its archives online. I understand that people in the office get perks, but my perk is choosing where I work. Plenty of people are interested in exploring the question on where the lines are on this stuff without being motivated by a desire to do it themselves, simply because its an interesting question. Sometimes theyll ask you to provide a W2, but thats not to check how much you made; its because the company didnt respond to the employment verification request. I dont have money, I dont have the extra time, so really theres not much point to it. Just like the LW I used to say she doesnt understand what I do. Youre right that ultimately it was on me to give her the information, but it was like talking to a brick wall. OP2: Since asking about previous salary is so common (ugh), she probably didnt think anything of telling them, especially when they approached it as a fair offer thing. When I was younger I used to post stuff on FB a ton, constantly updating what I was doing, how I was feeling etc But now as I got older I realized I dont want the whole world to know that much about me. Another problem is when your manager has no clue what real success looks like in the role. Any need for explanation shows some sort of weakness. Weve had almost 100% turnover in HR since this last time I pushed to get this policy changed. Bonuses are for good performance, IMHO. Thats the same reason there are so many political signs up at election time. In the early 2000s I searched a woman online because I was legitimately concerned she might try to keep me from getting other contract jobs. It also has the advantage of letting the employee choose the restaurant so they get something they will definitely enjoy. Maybe the reason it feels like you are questioning their ability is because you kinda are. Even if information about is posted by you in a public forum, some ways of engaging with it can be creepy. colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs Snooping isnt a big deal. So I googled him. And she took great delight in explaining that head office were not included as they always got treats, so it was their turn to miss out. And when they give out swag (and his company does awesome swag really nice blankets, those amazing steel water bottles that keep stuff cold all day, nice bluetooth headphones and stuff) they mail the swag out to the home gang. There are common misunderstandings about what certain projects actually were whenever someone reads in it print that rarely happen through spoken conversations, because people see it through the lense of their history/experience (common problem for people who leave X industry but stay in tech). I had a housemate who was a complete freak. Seems irrational, but I dont care if they snoop, I just dont want to know about it. Its like them taking an ad out in the New York Times and then wondering how people know whats in the ad. Are people who work in the arts not professionals? If youre trying to get to know me by finding out about other parts of my life, thats wrong, because thats information you should find out when I share it. Mine have all disappeared so I cant see whats new and whats not, so Im wading through comments Ive already read. I still usually use screennames that cant be easily traced back to me, and people were way more intense about it back in the aughts when we all thought posting your real name on the internet meant a crazed murderer would instantly show up outside your house. One time we were having a cupcake party to celebrate the completion of a huge multi-year project that he had played a significant role in (and had been hired for the project). Those who have been doing the job for years dont map a route, they see an address and drive to it. It was a creative way to encourage social connections when were in different locations. Its the current year, everyone knows that if you publish it online, the internet never forgets. If you dont understand what youre agreeing to, hire a lawyer to explain it to you. Your opinion is noted. Thats a big YIKES. Curious doesnt necessarily mean creepy, but that doesnt mean that a certain extreme level of curiosity cant veer over into creepy territory. We had to go over his head and finally it got shifted again to the business manager, who admitted straight out he didnt understand our work but since it was his job to support it, he was supportive. Ive been upset about this since I learned about that fact, but I do want to emphasize that shes a wonderful human being and I love her. For #5 I have a remote worker on my team whos in another state. Anything there I think youre good to look at. Sure, someone could look in and see what youre doing. Ive been the target of bad googling. I come from a nosy profession, but we also value discretion. Personally I think anything on LinkedIn or other professional sites is fair game. You actually had to know UNIX to get to things. The other thing that individualizes responses is whats actually out there on the internet about you. Which of the following are examples of accessing information without a business purpose? BUT, I dont think people necessarily have a right to be upset if others find things about you that you posted online, because its never 100% private. Verified answer. Also, the sorts of creepiness that you can do by stalking someone online are (broadly speaking) indirect and deferred; the sorts of creepiness you can do by being at someones house is direct, immediate and thus intrinsically always weirder. Id need a pretty good reason to pay money for a search that brings up stuff that is hard to search online. I think Engineer Girls experience of having someone not only find out this (incorrect) information but start rumors about it and then not let go of these rumors even when corrected, is an outlier. Its one thing to dig through the caverns of the internet to get old information that a person may have no control over being public. Yeah, cumbersome and I think for some reason, I never did submit the receipt. Yes! I dont have an answer though because this has just been happening over the last few months. I assume theyre doing the same to me. I agree. Fruit- Tomatoes are a fruit, so unless you never get tomato sauce on your pizza youre a liar. The EU has a right to be forgotten law, but the US and other countries do not. So, I googled a coworker with a more senior title than me. Its totally possible that this organization is just a poor fit, but maybe theres some feedback you can learn from in this crappy experience, too. But you are kind of giving a blanket I can look at anything personal statment. I would like to see the pro- tell everyone everything about us people respond to the age issue. I have only googled some of my coworkers, it was always once I found out that they were hired and going to be coming in. HOWEVER, its not appropriate to talk to the person about it, to tell other coworkers about it or to use the info against the coworker. where employees are expected to have fairly active online presences. Take the internet out of the equation and think about behaviors. But also, Im not sure what I would do with that information if I did find something about them except maybe be cautious. Workplace Privacy Between Coworkers - AllBusiness.com You look up all of them as a default? colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs. There were no disclosures. And in allowing people to have some privacy even if you can look up everything about them. Bad Behavior Your coworkers might just be nosy, prying into your personal life and gossiping about you when you're not around. @Librarian of SHIELD, I very much agree about the line, and how nebulous it is. If that person was traveling with a group of people (in this analogy the other people would be various websites that have information on a particular person, I would be curious enough to ask the other people if they know the reason for the costume. And yes it would jade me with working with that person if they were doing it to avoid talking to me or judge my skills. It is PUBLICITY. First off, many people put things up in the old days before mega search engines. I think for most companies security is not a question of if they will be hacked but rather when will they be hacked. If they google me to find out what kinds of llamas I have on my llama farm, thats over the line. Colleague vs. Coworker: What's the Difference? | InHerSight It was bananas. I know my sister the nurse used to get tonnes of stuff. But dont let on that youve done so. I remember your story about the emery board! Especially since so much information that is out there was either not put there with the consent of the person who is being searched on or was made public without their consent. After a second yearly evaluation wherein it was clear she had nothing constructive, relevant, or informed to say about anything I had done for yet another year, I asked for help from HR. They talked about their food blog at a staff meeting and I wanted to check it out! (this one is real for me). I think the true universal is what Alison picked up on; why are you telling the person youre looking into them? My favorite thing ever is that we get really nice heavy duty sample pens sent to us from a place that we used to buy company swag from for previous trade-shows [weve since found other items to hand out] and all my pens are personally branded *evil cackle*. I think googling a coworker and checking out their Linked In, Facebook, twitter, other social media is one thing and that is not the same as driving to someones house. Dont be so sensitive! Boundary crossers will cross boundaries anywhere and everywhere and will (in their mind) have a good reason for doing so. Exactly this. Suggestion: dont do anything youd categorize as snooping. Whats your motivation? It is information collected specifically for the purpose of informing the public. She was a VP and I was a director with a large team but she wasnt very effective and they thought these would help her, they didnt. LinkedIn is fine. Id have no problem telling a co-worker what I saw on their linkedin page. Sorry if it came across as looking up coworkers personal lives, I mean this more in a professional lookup capacity. Showing an upper level HR person the physical result might be useful. So maybe the company can do something like that also. That could be anything from a Grubhub gift card and a note to get lunch on you, to stopping by with coffeefor the people elsewhere on campus (maybe do your next one-on-one on their turf and bring it with you), to sending them all some special treat, timed to arrive on the same day as the department pizza party. Its creepy they are allowed to do that. Thats what were talking about. That information could have been used against her in numerous ways. In my office, its pure nosiness. a colleague shares the name of the medication, a colleague decides to send an invitation. Its blurry and we cant know where it is 100% of the time, but its there. Its another thing to take a look at things they purposefully make public about themselves on a popular social media site. Thats similar to my (and many peoples) response to the previous snooping letter, and I think it works for a lot of such situations. One caveat: Make sure the place you get a gift card to actually delivers to the home of the worker. Anything that requires detective work will make people wonder about your motivations. Doesnt employment verification typically include salary anyway? People are able to hire private investigators to tail people all the time and find out all kinds of information about them, it is all legal you do not have to consent to being followed, this is the similar to paying for a background check. Store, MinuteClinic and Distribution Center Colleagues: Use 7-digit Employee ID and password. Or at least hold these things aside for the rare occasion I come into the office. I had an experience related to the manager not knowing what I do One department hired me, but didnt have the budget for me so they technically put me in a different department and technically had to have me report to that departments head even though I was really working for a different department. But all of six years ago, that was before UberEats, I dont think online gift cards for places like Starbucks were that common yet (at least not in Canada), etc. My point was you cant flow on people to tell you everything youd want to know about them. And I wonder if this bleeds into the way the OP interacts with their director which is whats causing the go to training thing. Ive had plenty of clients have to return them and be marked no gifts on our end. I believe that I have to proceed on the assumption that he will. a. aquatic b. volcanic c. land d. sea. Obviously this rule of thumb wouldnt help weird people like the background check dude, but it should be fine for everyone else. Nobody is saying, Dont Google other people ever. Your comments on the OP and on this post indicate that you believe a mere Google search is one and the same as paying for a background check. Ive only ever had them on salad. For #5 my spouse used to work remotely for a firm that did regular lunches out for the team, and a schmancy holiday party dinner for the employees and partners. Just because its publicly available, doesnt mean its fair game IMO. @Autumnheart, I strongly disagree with what youre saying here. And information is now MUCH more easily available than it used to be. I assume they're doing the same to me. Probability goes up if youre in some minority categories particularly WoC and QPOC. What youre saying is the equivalent of saying theyre in the phone book, of course I looked up where they live 20 years ago, or if you didnt want me to look through your phone, you should put a stronger passcode on it or of course I went through my wallet, its your fault for leaving it on your desk. The only exception might be if they actually said or did something that made me wonder. It might a be a true reality, but its dystopian and we should stop using its one existence to justify it as OK. (which doesnt sound like the case). Not even pens that used to be a big one. 2. If people are willing to post horrible opinions on public platforms (even if personal platforms), thats absolutely something useful for one to know at work. So if I want to do a crazy dance in a cow costume in my bedroom with the blinds open I imagine that someone is looking and maybe even recording me. Some places that care about your previous salary will ask for verification, which might have been what the manager was thinking. Its not necessarily that strange. I think you are kind of using that as an excuse honestly. Now Im happy to drive a bit and pick something up, but if you were trying to get me a gift card for delivery youd come up empty. Of course roles have budgets, salary ranges, etc. If you dont understand what youre agreeing to, hire a lawyer to explain it to you. But that is something that might be interesting to know and even relevant in some cases. Thats not to say there are no problems here it certainly sounds like she still doesnt get on with the manager and the director above her, and this workplace might not be the best fit. CVS Code of Conduct Flashcards | Quizlet I can see it in the arts, because if you google an artist, you might find neat examples of their work and stuff. Whenever I treat the in-office team to lunch, I always send a Grubhub gift card to our remote team member, to make sure she feels included. dog out of my house. Otherwise it clogs your junk drawer and is ultimately useless. Like, its weird to me when people asked me if I was still with my SO and if we were married when they could just check fb. I have a coworker who makes a point of saying how she has googled all of us in our unit to find out our ages, and makes comments on things she has found on peoples social media, so she must be googling us regularly. Sometimes, your colleagues may present an idea to your team or make a decision about their career, and supporting them during these times can help you build a stronger relationship. It just is. are all public. If you Google me, you can find out that I experienced [insert awful family tragedy here, e.g., my father killed my mother in a murder-suicide]. They thought shed be embarrassed, but her response was basically, yeah, so? In a few years, I think every candidate will probably have silly videos or posts from high school or college posted somewhere and it wont manage so much. I was an early Usenet user. Cyber-snooping of coworkers should be taken seriously by management as the behavior could open the company up to liability by the victim. Luckily the manager focused on their achievements and what they put in the resume, but woof am I grateful I have my facebook on lockdown. If anyone thinks for a second that this is MY bad, all I can say to that is LMAO. Honestly, the only times Ive ever felt bummed by it have been the rare times that its been a big thank you thing that they kept secret and, had I known, I would have come in for. I found an unbelievable amount of highly personal medical information shed put in a cancer survivors newsletter. I would think a huge perk is never needing to remember your lunch and packing it to go! A few years after I graduated, they built a website and mined old hard drives to upload all articles from the previous decade to it. this is an interesting thought, especially in light of the original letter. The fact that you didnt fully and truly understand the ramifications of the reach of your audience has no bearing on any of this. I liked Alisons advice. She expressed surprise that this had happened and said that when, during the reference check conversation, the hiring manager had asked her for my former salary so that they could make me a fair offer, she told them, but advocated for a salary about 5% more than that for me. It sounds like youre assuming that everything on the internet is published with consent and its not. do I need to wear nylons to a job interview or are bare legs OK? Thats not necessarily true. I dont agree with people who argue that its morally OK to dig up absolutely *anything* because its technically public (if you have all day to correlate Marge Simpson to Marge Bouvier and know every trick to digging up 30-year-old Usenet posts). dis v57 free download. The CVs provide more detail about where theyve come from, how long theyve been working, who their networks are with. my lying coworker claimed someone said I couldnt eat at my desk, telling recruiters I wont move to states that discriminate, AirTag etiquette, and more. Pens and notepads usually fall under that amount. Its certainly a lot easier to pull up public records these days, but most peoples old internet posts are probably not going to show up on a ten minute casual googling. colleagues should never snoop or look up information cvs. It was pushed by one of the partners, who wanted some things done, had a general idea what he wanted, but didnt know exactly what was needed. I often get a Dragon Drink, which I dont think has any caffeine in it, if thats what youre avoiding. Or if you have multiple sites, give the other site equal money for their own event. I imagine its that way for a lot of people as well. It used to be that you had to write to the courthouse to get the information. Thats not the situation at all. VACUUM. If you dont want people connecting your internet activity to your professional self use a handle. Thats part of the reason Id give her a pass on it, and just make sure to head it off for next time. This is one of them. She never bought a pen or a thing of hand sanitiser or even a coffee mug, nowadays, she never really gets anything at all. And, sure, I could just ask instead of googling, but Im pretty socially awkward and I think I would just come across as weirdly interrogating someone if I tried that. I thought, Oh, what cool community thing did Boss Lady ended up in the paper for? and clicked. The first difference between a colleague and a coworker is your working relationship. So they worked (and billed for services) for *months* under a revoked license, until an entry-level staff member snooped and uncovered the truth. (Although technically legal in themselves. It was public when it aired, its still public now. Theres zero indication the OP wants to snoop and is trying to figure out how much they can get away with.
