Webdeport Guns husband, Yasar (Adam Bakri), a Muslim Kurdish Turk who was awaiting permanent leave to remain in the U.K. Donald Trump also is saying he doesn't want war, which is probably true. Does anyone have any questions? There's an obvious scene of the immigration deportation. It was an interesting experience because you couldn't really go bending things the way you thought would be more dramatic, you just have to make the story itself and hope there was enough drama there. Despite the millions affected by the Iraq War, its now far removed from British and American news cycles, displaced from the headlines by todays political turmoil. A script has been doing the rounds in Hollywood for five years. He loves a battle, when it's done with words, boasts, and threats. The days and weeks dragged agonisingly by. Despite the risk of a harsher sentence, I decided to plead not guilty because I felt strongly that my actions had been intended to prevent the unnecessary loss of life in an illegal war. I even thought, naively, Id be able to keep my anonymity. Now the goal is not truth, it is victory. However, when her friends start being interrogated about the leak, Gun confesses to being the whistleblower, leading to her being arrested and taken to court for breaching the Official Secrets Act. Her late husband, Tom, a former special agent of the FBI and one-time head of counter-intelligence in New York, co-authored the Gun story. Gun said that the UK government still had some explaining to do: "I thinkthere need to be more questions asked about whether they responded to that request, why they felt it was within their scope of work to respond to that sort of request, and what is the manner of the relationship between UK politics and US politics. You can look up Nicole Mowbray, she wrote an article in The Guardian a couple weeks ago, about this worst day of her life. WebFor example, a scene where Gun tries to get her husband out of an immigration detention center actually played out over three days during which she did not know where he was. "We started wondering whether we should do the blonde hair and the glasses and wondering about prosthetics, but one point Keira said to me, 'You know, the last thing I want is the audience to say, 'Oh, I don't know if I like her blonde,'" said Hood. So we just worked on the performance from the very what if it's you? And he kept thinking, 'How am I going to portray this? The issue is provocation. But this specificinstance is the ugly truth of what goes on.". And Where Is Katharine Gun, JUST 36 HOURS TO GO IN OUR WINTER CAMPAIGN. Exaggerating threats to provoke a war? Yet to this day there has been barely a mention of the Bush regimes disgraceful demand in official histories of the period, as if its been deliberately written out. You see it most vividly in that scene where everybody stops calling Martin Bright, or they start canceling all the interviews. Only now, more than a decade and a half later, is this disturbing sequence of events once again receiving the attention it deserves thanks to Official Secrets, a brilliant new movie starring Keira and former Doctor Who, Matt Smith. Last week in Los Angeles, I got to interview the director, South African-born Gavin Hood, after a screening. Sixteen years ago, I became headline news after I leaked an internal email from GCHQ, the communications intelligence gathering centre near Cheltenham. the waning support for public institutions today. Whatever, she blew the whistle ultimately revealing the truth behind the build-up to the Iraq War--regime change, disguised as terrifying threats of weapons of mass destruction. David Dayen: So why do you think this is an important story to tell now in 2019? And when we got to that point in the movie, I had to start montaging it because it was just taking too long to get to the end. This whole intelligence didn't match what the politicians were saying. So, she began to feel uncomfortable in the work she was doing at that point. She will not talk about it anything else. And I thought this is going to end in the worst civil war. Because I'm not ambitious it's not paramount for me to find myself in a high-paid job. I was suddenly free and bewildered. We go to the canteen and we talk.. Her story, which reveals what a country will do when it wants war and claims it does not, is told in an updated book and a major motion picture soon to be released--Official Secrets (Keira Knightly is Katharine). And she thought she wouldnt get caught. Why did the British authorities wait eight months before charging me and then drop the charges, claiming there was insufficient evi-dence for prosecution when I had confessed to the leak from the start? When my moment came, I found myself standing alone in the dock facing the judge and surrounded by lawyers, journalists and supporters. After the leak was published, hundreds of staff inside the building were questioned in order to discover the identity of the whistleblower. It is to say that a government, for its own reasons may, either by design or through miscalculation, lead a country into an unnecessary and brutal war. Keira said no one knows Katharine, and that's not an insult to Katharine. Ten years ago, a young Mandarin specialist at GCHQ, the government's surveillance centre in Cheltenham, did something extraordinary. It should take the facts as they lead. However, the Pentagon says the US deployment is "in response to indications of heightened Iranian readiness to conduct offensive operations against US forces and our interests.". I actually think the little memo lands on our lap more often than we think, even if it's just who I should vote for. The story of Katharine Gun, a whistle-blower who exposed NSA spying in the lead-up to the Iraq War, gets the Hollywood treatment. Even though she didn't stop the war and some people are like what's the point if she didn't stop the warwell, the point is how do you sleep at night? For several years, just recalling the events would set my heart racing and my hands trembling. Most directly, it bolstered opposition to the US position from Chilean and Mexican diplomats weary of American "dirty tricks". Gun made the choice to leak the document, which Martin Bright of The Observer in Britain published in a story on March 2, 2003. The paper had taken the controversial decision to back intervention in Iraq. Then, we all started watching the invasion and we werent how we got into the war. When you have the initial GCHQ induction course for new arrivals, she said, they tell you not to trust journalists, to be careful to keep everything confidential. Still, she printed off the memo, tucked it into her purse, and took it home. Though celebrated Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg would later call Guns actions the most important and courageous leak in history due to her efforts to save lives through preventing a war, she obviously didnt succeed in stopping the invasion. Because it was toughthe guy wouldnt print his stuff. The British are quite British, you know. And she and many in her world knew, and many in the CIA knew, as Mel Goodman who's the man in the boathouse in Washington knew, that this was B.S. Following the trauma inflicted on Gun, the U.K. Attorney General dropped the case against her with no warning. Amazing lady, shes still a journalist. Martin Bright, who is in the movie very briefly I guess, is no longer in journalism as I understand it. Gabrielle Bruney is a writer and editor for Esquire, where she focuses on politics and culture. It was what I was thinking, what I was feeling. [Ahmed is depicted in the film as strongly pro-war, resistant to running stories that conflict with his opinion.]. So we start with hair, and then we start with glasses, and Keira says, "Gavin, what if I just was me?" Is this a matter of threatening to launch a war, or is it a matter of responding to the US positioning itself for war? We were to target such things as phone calls and emails from their homes as well as their places of work. Katharine Gun, a shy and studious 28-year-old who spent her days listening in to obscure Chinese intercepts, decided to tell the world about a secret plan by the US government to spy on the United Nations. But I do want to give her credit that I think I didn't do her justice enough in the moment that she leaked that memo; it changed so quickly to war that we don't really get a moment to absorb the fact that as a result of her leaking that memo, there was no vote at the UN Security Council. Then, the world is safer until the sequel when it all happens again. But she said she would still be prepared to give evidence to the Chilcot inquiry into the Iraq war. Our work is licensed under Creative Commons (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0). But, maybe if I didn't know and maybe if I went into that job and discovered oh my God, maybe I really can stop a terrorist attack today. As a result of the story the paper published 10 years ago this weekend, she was arrested, lost her job and faced trial under the Official Secrets Act. But when Gun's lawyers threaten to question the U.K. Attorney General Lord Goldsmith about Britain's involvement in the Iraq war, the government drops their case against Gun. I could put a lens on, and now my job is, this actress is doing great work, lets not get tricky, lets just get the audience into her eyes so that you could see those cogs moving. That would be awkward. Can dementia be spotted in CHILDHOOD? You dont have to agree with what she did, Im just telling you what she did. And I went, Oh, that's how much that superhero myth is in our system. We didn't end up making it with that studio. But the falsehoods and unnecessary wars of yesteryear likely have influenced the waning support for public institutions today. And maybe if we went to work for Enron and we liked our job well enough, and its a job. "And she then said: 'My way into this is what would I as the unadorned, no-makeup, no-fancy-edges Keira Knightley what would I feel like if this memo landed on my desk?'". Throughout her own court case, what only a few knew was that she was also fighting for If we give over, if we start believing the fake news, as you say, we're all doomed, man. WebKeira Knightley stars in this true story about Katharine Gun, a British intelligence officer who exposed the US government's efforts to force the UN Security Council to sanction the I was only a junior analyst, but I knew the email was outrageous: the American government was asking Britain to spy on United Nations diplomats so they could be blackmailed into supporting an invasion of Iraq. Whether you work for Boeing or Enron or Wallstreet? That seems like the central undercurrent that is playing throughout the entire film. Eventually, it was widely held that at least one of the reports of the attacks, and perhaps even both, were false. Hood said that this was a purposeful choice by Knightley. The central issues of whistle-blower protection, public interest disclosures, journalistic freedom and the accountability of our elected representatives continue to be just as relevant today. It's tough, the laws here are even stricter than in the UK. Problem number two: Do you shut up or do you speak up? And that's quite a depressing place to find yourself in when you feel so strongly and passionately about something. So here we are in rehearsal, and we're talking one day about the look. WebGun, then 28, received an email about a U.S.-led operation enlisting the help of Britain to spy on other countries, in an attempt to blackmail them into supporting the Iraq War. Give today. It wasone of the reasons I came to this country in 89 was because we were getting drafted, and I thought I cant do this. As the title of the film script suggests, she was "The Spy Who Tried to Stop a War". After the charges against her were dropped in 2004, she found it difficult to find a new Questioner: It was so heartening to hear you talk about that hero's journey because I feel like we so often take compassion, passion, integrity for granted as a call to action. [In the movie, Gun says I dont work for the government, I work for the people.]. We must not be flummoxed by exaggerated claims of threats against America and our interests. But, did it change the way I approached it? If the email did reach the newspapers, I reasoned, there would be no more than a discreet summary. Gavin Hood: Its a great question. According to the Guardian, The more we find out that in fact the million-person march was a real cause of worry for Downing Street and for Blair personally, it makes you think we were so close and yet so far.". Right now my priorities are to ensure I am there for my daughter.". A transcript, lightly edited with explainers where necessary, follows. 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