Video, 00:00:41Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. In a Welsh village during the summer of 1946, a 12-year-old girl is brutally murdered. Interesting insights! Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. Photo added by Tracey. There is no doubt about that.". Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. First he lived in Fulham with a former London Metropolitan Police officer John Widdows and his daughter Muriel whom he married in 1948. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. In the programme, former Dyfed Powys chief constable Jackie Roberts travelled to met him and he told her how his grandparents (Muriel's parents) had changed after the murder. Jones was released from prison in December of 1941, so he was a free man when Muriel was killed. You are talking about 74 years ago now and nothing has been able to close the matter.". Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret ( ne Morgans) Drinkwater. 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Her mother later went to the village to look for her when she did not return home; more than a dozen men from the area began a search. Thanks again for sharing this. Just put my name in Facebook bar. Hi Neil. The 12 year old loved to sing and there was a skip in her step as she started on the winding path through the forest. An amazing campaign by Neil Milkins, but unfortunately, no breakthrough for Muriel. I guess a DNA test of Sheila Martin must have been taken to see if it was the same person. The identity of the man who murdered a schoolgirl in 1946 remains a mystery after DNA left on her'little red riding hood' coat failed to link to a notorious child killer. [9] Detectives from Scotland Yard came to Swansea to assist in the investigation. You will need a male dna profile from a decendent on harold joness family tree. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. Her mother seen her approaching 400 yards away, so perhaps she was a selected victim. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head and shot twice while walking home. Dear Sir/Madam. Another wait and see. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Taking into consideration all of the above information and the decades that have passed since Muriel was killed, I think that the only way this case will be closed is through a familial DNA match. Former Detective Inspector Paul Bethell, who was in charge of South Wales Police's cold case team, explained in the documentary: "We know Muriel used to catch the school bus from the school to the gateway off the main road which led to the forestry, and then she would walk about a mile through the forestry, along the lane to the farmhouse.". For decades, a key person of interest in Muriels murder has been Hubert Hoyles. She was buried at St David's Church in Penllergaer. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Fifteen days later, Jones murdered 11-year-old neighbour Florence Little too, hiding her body in the attic of his parents' home. And no idea and Japanese workers. She was singing . As part of the investigation forensic evidence has been re-examined and officers have considered theories that convicted murderer Harold Jones was . And we appreciate your dogged determination to get to the bottom of what happened. Muriels niece is in a dreadful state. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. https://www.abc10.com/amp/article/news/crime/prison-inmate-accused-42-year-old-homicide-in-dixon-area/103-535ec3ad-2aa1-4d10-94a7-aafe4f6081ff, We are thrilled to announce that remains discovered in 2017 in Sanford, Maine at a building site have been identified. However, in 2008, a team of retired detectives investigating cold cases found Drinkwater's clothes in storage. will do what you suggest. The police have a Y-STR profile from Muriels coat. With the help from a niece of Muriel Drinkwater I pursued my research which led to South Wales Police taking a D.N.A. As you know it is not possible to prove whether Harold Jones was Muriels killer by D.N.A testing Jones daughter. I have spoken to former D.C.I Paul Bethel and given him this information. Those who have not failed may not have succeeded. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest daughter of four born to Margaret and John Percival Drinkwater, a smallholder and forestry worker in Swansea, Wales. Video, 00:01:00, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. Just before she entered the woods she looked up to see the farm in the distance. Holly Ann Campiglia was a Jane Doe until she was identified in 1992. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Her mother Margaret watched from the house as the youngest of. Two days later, police found one of the murder weapons, a World War I-era Colt .45 pistol. 2023 BBC. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. We are hoping to make a BBC documentary (follow on from Dark Son) to see if we can shed any new light on the case. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive. He stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. Well here is the TRUTH. Interesting case Christine. (My belief now is that the suspect he referred to was Hubert Hoyles who as a 13 year-old boy had come into contact with Muriels family shortly before her murder. 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A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. Regards. She was hoping in her lifetime to find out who killed her aunt. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. OnJune 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school inPenllergaer, Swansea. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Arrested once again, Jones this time pleaded guilty to the charge of murder at aMonmouthcourt in November 1921. Ms Drinkwater was seen by her mother in the distance. It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Hi Neil. 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He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. On this occasion he was rude to me claiming that he knew nothing about any information sent to South Wales Police from D.C. Paul Rogers. I live on the land of penllergaer woods and I have some information that I think u would like to hear.. how can I get in contact with u to chat.? And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. Muriel's death was known at the time as the Little Red Riding Hood Murder because of the bright red coat she was wearing. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. Adding: Please may I make a comment that the information that I request would be available via computer in an instant. There is little doubt that Muriels murderer was lying in wait, just counting the minutes until he could commit his heinous crime. Hoyles lamented, For years, Ive lived with the knowledge that some people in the community suspected me. More recently, however, it was tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. Update: I have left it two weeks for the . Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. Birth: 16 Jan 1878: Murder. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. from Ron Harries and his cousin and from Muriels coat and yet are not releasing the results of the tests. Moments before being brutally attacked, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater had waved to her mother, who stood at the kitchen window, as she made her way home from Gowerton High School along the long path that led to the family home. She disappeared around the bend into some more dense undergrowth. He clearly wasn't very bright, and there's evidence that you see of overkill with Muriel Drinkwater's case as well.". Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest one in the world to . Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. MLS breaks attendance records on the opening weekend of the new season as both Charlotte and Atlanta welcome over 67,000 fans - more than the average crowd at 13 NFL teams! Something went wrong, please try again later. D.S. Despite their inve. There are far too many retired people out there who want to write books about unsolved murders, trawling through these records and coming up with half-baked theories.. Although he was first registered at Widdows Fulham address at Hestercombe Avenue in 1947 as Harold Jones, the following years and up until 1962 he was registered as Harry Stevens. The savage nature of the attack stands out from other rapes. They had been regular churchgoers, but stopped going to church and moved away from the farm within two years of the murder. Vote. ~ Christine. 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[13] However, in 2019, South Wales Police stated that forensic tests on the DNA "categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Its amazing the documentary could screw things up so much. However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. It was supposed to have been abandoned in 1944 but I know there were GIs who married Swansea girls still around in 1946. Edith Patten had been buried in the old town cemetery and was left behind when officials relocated the graves in the 1930s. 'Each case is reviewed periodically. taken from Jones exhumed body can the police honestly say catergorically that Jones was or was not Muriels killer. A different D.C.I. On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. ', Glamorgan Police and men of the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit make a break for a meal during their search for evidence after her murder on June 27, 1946, Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. Victor said that the programme had made him suspicious as to whether Florences killer Harold Jones who had been released from a 20 year prison sentence in 1941 for the Abertillery murders was responsible for 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwaters death. Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. She was singing on the school bus with her friends, on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, when she was dropped on the side of the road near her family's farm on the outskirt of Swansea. The Little Red Riding Hood murder of Muriel Drinkwater. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. 4th daughter born to Lilian and Charles Herbert Irvine in Liverpool. Video, 00:02:56, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Chief Inspector Bethell aptly explains, Re-opening the case is as much about proving who didnt do it, as who did. Remember that Hoyles was suspected of Muriels murder for decades and lived under a cloud suspicion that followed him everywhere he travelled in his small village. She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. If you have any information about Muriels murder, please contact the South Wales Policevia email at[emailprotected], Mystery of 1946 murder in woods BBC News article, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. She was still wearing her school uniform. Thank you Christine. I think it was suggested that the police thought that the family knew more than they were letting on. Published: 08:03 EST, 1 May 2019 | Updated: 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019. Are you able to tell me if her father has been cleared via DNA profiling?. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater (left) might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer Harold Jones when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Adding: Please may I make a comment that the police have a Y-STR profile from a distance 400. He lived in Fulham with a former London Metropolitan police officer John Widdows and his cousin and Muriels. 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