In my opinion, it should not even be legal to do that. 0000535878 00000 n Let me get this straight. And is it inaccurate to say that Monsanto does produce GMO seeds and that is their main goal? Between 1996 and 2007, Monsanto, the largest supplier of genetically engineered (or GMO) seed traits,2 acquired more than a dozen smaller companies,3 and it now controls 60 percent of corn and 62.5 percent of soy-bean seeds and seed trait licenses in the United States.4 -- and what I said, which was that getting the word out produces an awareness of GMOs as an issue. They also sell organic supplies that are not always easy to find. 0000018840 00000 n In 1981, the Ferry-Morse Seed Company was acquired by France's Groupe Limagrain. 522 0 obj <> endobj xref 522 55 0000000016 00000 n --, if I must only bow to Anti-Monsanto preachers or Monsanto marketers.. After the ovule has ripened, seeds are the product. Burpee and Petoseed together dominated vegetable breeding for the home garden consumer during the 60s. My main objection to the combination of "GMO AND Monsanto" debate as you have presented is two-fold. Pupilla - I just saw this response. My original question Are you against any of the things Monsanto has done or is doing? you dont want to answer. Through generations of care and quality, Ferry-Morse has earned the trust of home gardeners across the country. I see you can 'quote' my post, but what is it about what I said that you object to? 0000011436 00000 n It is also false to say non-GM cotton is not available in India. Once of the great things about capitalism is that we can vote with our buying patterns. Founded in 1856, Ferry-Morse is one of the oldest operating seed businesses in the United States and pioneered the practice of selling only fresh flower, herb, and vegetable . Do you think the "Natural" or "Original" Species of plants ( and maybe other organisms too ) will go extinct because of the GMOs overpopulating the Whole World? Anyone have any information about that? I have selected one or two only at a time to respond to and even with those I have written at least as many, but I think plenty more words than you. I am not "torn", because that is creating a false dichotomy as if I must only bow to Anti-Monsanto preachers or Monsanto marketers. 0000055179 00000 n I Like The Natural Species given by Mother Nature Much Better! Yours is a textbook statement of the fallacious logical argument of appeal to fear / argument from adverse consequences. ". $1.44. The D.M. California now has the same disease. I don't think that that is a very reliable list. Ed and I briefly went back and forth about the original article and I made a simple comment that I was always glad when GMO was brought to the attention of the public for the benefit of those who are unaware of it, which I've already apologized for not making clear enough. No shipping on orders over $30. I don't consider myself "torn" as you've interpreted from my writing. You see diseases developing, like the Citrus Greening disease, and you think, wellmaybe GMO and Monsanto will rescue us from these. So I don't trust the viability of this list. hbba`b``3 10 [T endstream endobj 523 0 obj <>/Metadata 26 0 R/Pages 25 0 R/StructTreeRoot 28 0 R/Type/Catalog/ViewerPreferences<>>> endobj 524 0 obj <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 1/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 612.0 792.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 525 0 obj <> endobj 526 0 obj <> endobj 527 0 obj <> endobj 528 0 obj <>stream I dont find this constructive at all, so Im sorry but Im going to end here. I agree that we are all too far removed from the reality of what is going on with our food supply, but I also believe that most people expect the government agencies to be protecting us from risks and dangers to the food supply, which would include GMO seeds and foods. Whose goal is to"Advance the ethical development and stewardship of the genetic resources of agricultural seed.". From 1856 onward, Ferry Morse seeds have been supplying the freshest and best garden seeds for the home gardens of American gardeners. And why would someone who likes gardening and natural living work for a company whose stated goals are completely against your values? Not all "progress" is a good thing and we often dive headfirst into it without truly knowing the full ramifications. Which seed companies are owned by Monsanto? - IronSet You entered the conversation challenging the idea of boycotting GMO seeds. 3. seedsNOW Do you have 12 months to wait for it? I am 1000% against genetically modifying seed. I still do not know what the truth is about what happened in India so it is not possible to discuss it at all, but obviously something very negative happened in India and I would have preferred if you gave a balanced explanation of why you felt that link was incorrect, instead of stating that it was completely debunked, as if that completely clears GMOs and Monsanto from any wrong doing in India. There are also plenty of graphs showing the overlap of government officials that make policy and Monsanto employees which is more worrying to me actually. That is difficult to do when my friends are talking about, and I quote you describing a "documentary": "How about the film it links to, called Bitter Seeds which is a documentary about the impact of genetically modified cotton on Indias farmers and the suicide rate of over a quarter million Bt Cotton farmers each year due to financial stress resulting from massive crop failure and the price of Monsantos Bt seeds? It is way too long, and was built upon a post that is riddled with misinformation, so it requires far more fact checking then I have time for right now. https://www.msu.edu/~howardp/seedindustry.html. I believe if it interests them enough, they will look into it further, themselves.. Read this National Geographic Article on GMOs and Florida Orange Juice if you have a moment and you can see some of the difficult issues that consumers may vote soon on with their dollars. I guess, the long past resolved discussion of the inaccuracy of the original link was relevant. :) The depth of these posts is a nice contrast to the lengthy discussions elsewhere on the site regarding whether shiny brass hardware is currently "in" or "out." Compare $ 1 98. We later expanded the catalog to include peppers and eggplant since they are in the same plant family as tomatoes. If they discontinue their variety they know me and thousands of others will kick their butt. I vote with my pennies, just as you do with yours. 0000492936 00000 n This year, I used FEDCO for my vegetable seeds again. Is Ferry Morse Seeds owned by Monsanto? [And you did not directly quote me before disagreeing with what I said in that instance. Free shipping any order of $50+! You've made broad, generalizations about the people on both sides of this controversy as if you are not part of either side. I simply replied that I do not, would not and have not called attention to your intentions because they were never part of this discussion. I have a better idea. Since 1897, gardeners have trusted American Seed to provide the best value in the marketplace. You only have to look around at many examples of when we have done that. You said it is an emotional issue and I respect that, but it doesn't give anyone the right to say hurtful things like not thinking what you say is important after coming this far. If anything the larger companies have less questionable variety development. I get Mother Earth News out of the library once in awhile. 0000536667 00000 n We are not well suited to discuss controversial subjects with each other. Is Ferry-Morse seeds owned by Monsanto? Yet you dont consider this statement a label? [3] A. E. F. White, John Stoughton Newberry, and W. K. Anderson were also officers. The Company is Part of a Massachusetts based privately owned gardening company known as plantation products. for pricing and availability. I'm trying to avoid their products too. If you cant have Better Boy and Early Girl, without Monsanto and their biotech efforts, Ill willingly give up their varieties. Ferry-Morse Basil Sweet Italian Herb Plant Seeds (1 Pack) - Seed Gardening, Full Sun. :-|. Ferry-Morse. Repeat the same flaws?' Burpee was never owned by Monsanto, but sold its west coast operations which changed hands and were eventually bought by Monsanto. I only insist on using good references and doing a little fact checking. Which if you had shared that, we might have found some common ground. Companies are bought and sold every day in the seed business, and the corporate owners usually have nothing to do with the good people working at them who are hard working employees, many who like gardening and natural living, like me. [5][8] However, Wilson's health was poor, and in 1877 he sold the operation to Charles Copeland Morse and A. L. Trouncing the entire field because we don't like some parts of it is effectively throwing the baby out with the bath water. I get it, you are a critical thinker, and independent thinker and a very detail oriented thinker. No you dont see Monsanto rescuing us but yet, you are hoping that the GMO potential solution will. I do not doubt that your intentions are to find accurate, truthful, and complete information but intentions and execution are two different things. Yes, I do have fears about producing GMO seed and tampering with something that the entire life of the planet depends on. I will continue to grow my varieties no matter who makes them since any home garden variety I can buy is GMO-free so it is a no-brainer since I like the variety I should stick up for it because tomato seeds don't have a voice in this mess and they will be lost forever, and anyone boycotting home garden seeds that Monsanto bought will only contribute to the loss of these varieties since Monsanto is only a friend of its shareholders and with the stroke of a pen will stop producting these varieties and make them lost forever. For example they were where the pioneering 1973 peer-reviewed paper of CFCs causing the breakdown of ozone was published (link). Always have for 30+ years. About Ferry-Morse. +w4'h\o6mKk/SkA2?+!>Qbl!=;EINQ$K^7i76Go]. And let me draw attention to the fact that you did not address the other half of my statement which was about the way in which youve added your analysis of me into the discussion. Really? I don't want to win, I want to learn from you. I am not concerned about losing varieties of seeds as you are. I stick to the few seed companies, who I think take avoiding their seed pretty seriously. "Still any article or post or thread that criticizes GMO is a good thing to me, because it gets the word out. That should do it. I have been buying most of my seed from FEDCO the last few years. Nature has a non-aligned editorial board and attempts to be on the cutting edge of gold-standard research in the public's interest. There is only room for one other comment before this post becomes to long for me. I have Better Boy and Early Girl tomatoes in my garden, Monsanto varieties, and others in tomatoes really like Big Beef, another one of theirs all for the home garden market. There are smaller seed companies out there trying to get established just as the seed industry is consolidating. Ferry-Morse. I trust them, that they are on the same page as I am about protecting the seed supply from Genetically modified seed. Many of our brands were founded in the mid-1800's and have been trusted by generations. I do own my words and own my entire prior post, and your reply re-enforces that we are very far from each others' interpretation of events around us. Add to Cart. Hopefully if it is explained well enough others might get a better understanding of the issue.". I think we can both persue our understanding of GMO issues separately and perhaps, in the future we can stick to discussing which tomato tastes the best. 0000001396 00000 n Not relevant enough. I think they would like to have nothing but GMO seeds available to buy to everyone, including home gardeners. Thanks for pointing me in a direction to find a better list of Seed Companies that are owned by Monsanto. Where you don't trust Monsanto Dupont, Syngenta, Bayer, BASF and Dow, etc. I feel all comments among us should be assumed to be in good faith without having to win favor in "the benefit of the doubt", as this shouldn't be a political forum. I hope to be able to continue having options to grow all conventionally bred varieties, including Better Boy tomatoes, therefore I will have no part of any boycott of wholesome, certifiably organic vegetable varieties smearing them so that they eventually might become discontinued and lost forever to those of us who like to grow them. Multiple smaller, non high tech companies that are manageable by individuals and an asset to their communities. Negative: On Jun 26, 2014, . No, I've read everything including all links. I get notifications on this old thread. ~ GMOs dont seem to concern you is that right? As should every living person on the earth. This is just a winter sowing forum where people don't come to receive inaccurate information in order to 'convert' them to some belief system. However there is one point I can beef up. Ill be back to respond to it when I can. So why is it still being discussed? It does not refer to anything specific and is just disrespectful. Ferry-Morse Seed Company - Wikipedia Nobody has the right to force anyone to eat anything. List of Seed Companies Owned by Monsanto - Houzz Instead of simply looking for companies that are owned by Monsanto to avoid, I can also direct my attention to these small, regional, seed breeders who are producing quality seed that is suited to my garden. It would be nice to have first-hand experience, accuracy, truthfulness and completeness in anything we read and I am quick to react when something doesn't smell right. And Ive further offended you, by suggesting that what I understood you to say was that you were torn about GMOs. [3] Its profits continued to be stable until 1865, when Ferry bought out Gardner's share and took over the company. This link gives an explanation of their position on Monsanto and GMO seeds: http://www.fedcoseeds.com/seeds/monsanto.htm. Pupilla - Im surprised, that you have taken offense at my last post. Of course, papayas are not as important a crop as rice, the fact of the matter is, GE crops are not always 100% bad. 0000509934 00000 n That's why I'm concerned about them. About Ferry Morse Seeds - GardenersNet.Com
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